Jelly Roll

And the horse goes, ask for help.

Yeah, it's just all these like really cool little things.

But when he said ask for help, I was like, wow, I need to ask for help.

It's like whenever I was addicted to drugs and I had to walk in that room for the first time and go, I don't have control.

So, um, I called a company called onsite that does a therapy.

And, um, I went and spent two weeks with a lady named Mary B who wrote the curriculum for food addiction in the world.

Like she is a 80 something year old woman with glasses, sweet soul of a woman.

And we locked in the cabin.

And she said, we're going to figure out what this is.

And I spent, I'd say maybe two or three weeks in his cabin with this sweet old woman.

And it was like, uh,

No phone, out in the woods.

I walked every day.

I played with the horses.

I mean, I just went late in grass.

And it really took me all the way back through all my years.

And it was the first time that I didn't just try to rush to lose the weight.

I tried to figure out why I was carrying the weight.

And that's whenever I figured out that overeating for me wasn't a failure of discipline.

I'm a pretty disciplined guy.