Jelly Roll

Yes. Yeah. And a lot of it, too, was financially driven. Like where I lived at at the time, the only people that had money did crime.

In my neighborhood, it was a real clear cut thing. You either did drugs or you sold drugs.

In my neighborhood, it was a real clear cut thing. You either did drugs or you sold drugs.

In my neighborhood, it was a real clear cut thing. You either did drugs or you sold drugs.

Right. And even if you sold and did drugs, you were better off than the people that just did drugs. And I know that sounds weird, and I'm not trying to get into a bunch of childhood stuff here, but my mother struggled with her own things from addictive stuff to mental health stuff. My father had alcohol things. I was in a house where it seemed very common. Right.

Right. And even if you sold and did drugs, you were better off than the people that just did drugs. And I know that sounds weird, and I'm not trying to get into a bunch of childhood stuff here, but my mother struggled with her own things from addictive stuff to mental health stuff. My father had alcohol things. I was in a house where it seemed very common. Right.

Right. And even if you sold and did drugs, you were better off than the people that just did drugs. And I know that sounds weird, and I'm not trying to get into a bunch of childhood stuff here, but my mother struggled with her own things from addictive stuff to mental health stuff. My father had alcohol things. I was in a house where it seemed very common. Right.

Yeah, to me, this was what was happening. Yeah, like this was what was going on. It wasn't until later in life. And there's a famous quote in Alcoholics Anonymous that says, change happens when the pain to remain the same is greater than the pain it takes to change.

Yeah, to me, this was what was happening. Yeah, like this was what was going on. It wasn't until later in life. And there's a famous quote in Alcoholics Anonymous that says, change happens when the pain to remain the same is greater than the pain it takes to change.

Yeah, to me, this was what was happening. Yeah, like this was what was going on. It wasn't until later in life. And there's a famous quote in Alcoholics Anonymous that says, change happens when the pain to remain the same is greater than the pain it takes to change.

And that, yeah. That's interesting. That's cool, right? And that day in jail, I was like, I don't care how painful this change is. I'm gonna make this change. And man, it was...

And that, yeah. That's interesting. That's cool, right? And that day in jail, I was like, I don't care how painful this change is. I'm gonna make this change. And man, it was...

And that, yeah. That's interesting. That's cool, right? And that day in jail, I was like, I don't care how painful this change is. I'm gonna make this change. And man, it was...

When I go back and speak at jails, the first time I went and spoke at a jail again, I'll never forget I was leaving and I heard one guy whisper to another guy, he's like, all we got to do is be rich and famous and all our problems are solved. So the next time I went and spoke, I forgot about, I never tell them the most important part of the story.

When I go back and speak at jails, the first time I went and spoke at a jail again, I'll never forget I was leaving and I heard one guy whisper to another guy, he's like, all we got to do is be rich and famous and all our problems are solved. So the next time I went and spoke, I forgot about, I never tell them the most important part of the story.

When I go back and speak at jails, the first time I went and spoke at a jail again, I'll never forget I was leaving and I heard one guy whisper to another guy, he's like, all we got to do is be rich and famous and all our problems are solved. So the next time I went and spoke, I forgot about, I never tell them the most important part of the story.

Was that the moment from coming home to jail and deciding I was going to make the change to seeing the fruits of the change was like a decade long process. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't bear fruit from that change for 10 years. I was eating shit sandwiches. You know what I mean?

Was that the moment from coming home to jail and deciding I was going to make the change to seeing the fruits of the change was like a decade long process. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't bear fruit from that change for 10 years. I was eating shit sandwiches. You know what I mean?

Was that the moment from coming home to jail and deciding I was going to make the change to seeing the fruits of the change was like a decade long process. Right. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't bear fruit from that change for 10 years. I was eating shit sandwiches. You know what I mean?

And just trying to find my way and living in a van and doing $50 shows and just like, I was willing to sacrifice. Yeah, it's daily.