Jemele Hill

But very few people can vacillate between two wildly different networks. ESPN is not a political network at all. Fox is the most conservative network Or maybe they're not the most conservative because you do have Newsmax and you also have OWN. But, you know, they're at the top of the food chain, certainly when it comes to conservative networks.

It's the value pinging that is very interesting to me to see him going back and forth between these two circles. And at least from, I think I read this some time ago, like he's doing some kind of live event with like Chris Cuomo and this guy. So I just wonder where all of this is going. And so it'll be fascinating to see the arc of his career.

It's the value pinging that is very interesting to me to see him going back and forth between these two circles. And at least from, I think I read this some time ago, like he's doing some kind of live event with like Chris Cuomo and this guy. So I just wonder where all of this is going. And so it'll be fascinating to see the arc of his career.

I think, and this is just based off things that he said publicly, I mean, I think his ultimate goal is to be the number one media mogul in all of television. And as a personality, while, you know, maintaining, obviously working on some projects that give him ownership over things, of course. But I think his goal is just kind of media world domination. So we're seeing this unfold in real time.

I think, and this is just based off things that he said publicly, I mean, I think his ultimate goal is to be the number one media mogul in all of television. And as a personality, while, you know, maintaining, obviously working on some projects that give him ownership over things, of course. But I think his goal is just kind of media world domination. So we're seeing this unfold in real time.

And it's really quite a masterclass into how if you can drill into the performance part of this, what lay ahead for you. I mean, because the thing with me is that while certainly I'm comfortable on TV, comfortable in formats like this and virtually any format. At some point, like I can't perform like this is what you get and this is all there is.

And it's really quite a masterclass into how if you can drill into the performance part of this, what lay ahead for you. I mean, because the thing with me is that while certainly I'm comfortable on TV, comfortable in formats like this and virtually any format. At some point, like I can't perform like this is what you get and this is all there is.

So I can't every day sort of create this level of enthusiasm and fight and all these other things to sort of sell the natural opinion that I have. Like, that's just not a talent that I have. And he has that talent.

So I can't every day sort of create this level of enthusiasm and fight and all these other things to sort of sell the natural opinion that I have. Like, that's just not a talent that I have. And he has that talent.

to such a incredible degree that I guess the downside of it is that I feel I worry that for younger journalists that this is becoming sort of like a Steph Curry effect in the sense that Steph Curry started, you know, shooting these logo threes and shooting these completely ridiculous and banana shots.

to such a incredible degree that I guess the downside of it is that I feel I worry that for younger journalists that this is becoming sort of like a Steph Curry effect in the sense that Steph Curry started, you know, shooting these logo threes and shooting these completely ridiculous and banana shots.

And now every NBA player thinks that they can do that or young kids coming up learning how to play basketball. You know, they're firing off 60 footers thinking like this is how you play the game, not realizing that that talent is reserved to one player who can do that. And so my I guess my larger concern is that what is.

And now every NBA player thinks that they can do that or young kids coming up learning how to play basketball. You know, they're firing off 60 footers thinking like this is how you play the game, not realizing that that talent is reserved to one player who can do that. And so my I guess my larger concern is that what is.

And I don't mean to make it sound like it's a bad thing, like he's negatively influencing younger journalists, but I know a lot of them are watching him and thinking, I can do that very same thing. And so right now, they're drilling into persona as opposed to work. So that's sort of like the long-term 64,000-foot view that I'm a little bit more concerned about.

And I don't mean to make it sound like it's a bad thing, like he's negatively influencing younger journalists, but I know a lot of them are watching him and thinking, I can do that very same thing. And so right now, they're drilling into persona as opposed to work. So that's sort of like the long-term 64,000-foot view that I'm a little bit more concerned about.

It has. It's a sucker move. And wait, maybe I need to retract everything I said. This is actually my favorite story from the last couple of days. Because, okay, there's so many things with this story. Like, one, you have this producer who, as you mentioned, may or may not have been on the date.

It has. It's a sucker move. And wait, maybe I need to retract everything I said. This is actually my favorite story from the last couple of days. Because, okay, there's so many things with this story. Like, one, you have this producer who, as you mentioned, may or may not have been on the date.

Like, I don't know how much people have listened to this, but if you haven't, I encourage you to listen to it. It literally sounds like that they're on a podcast. I mean, the sound quality is so crisp. I'm like, was my man wearing a lavalier? Like... Why is this sound quality so good? And the other thing, too, I mean, I agree with you, Dan, like this is this is ultimately despicable.

Like, I don't know how much people have listened to this, but if you haven't, I encourage you to listen to it. It literally sounds like that they're on a podcast. I mean, the sound quality is so crisp. I'm like, was my man wearing a lavalier? Like... Why is this sound quality so good? And the other thing, too, I mean, I agree with you, Dan, like this is this is ultimately despicable.

Like regardless, a lot of people are caught up in what this producer said and how he characterizes Stephen A. Smith and more or less how people view him at ESPN. Like to me, that's like irrelevant. The most the relevant part of this is that you could be in a social setting and if you work at ESPN. wind up being taped and then somebody else giving that to the media.