Jemele Hill

And I'm not saying this to call her out, but just to give people the origin story of this.

It's because Carrie brought my name up when she did the video addressing the fact that Stephen A. has never responded to Michelle Beadle with the same level of harshness that he has responded to some of the Black folks

some of which were just offering a critique of him.

Obviously a lot of people pointed to what he had to say about Jasmine Crockett, which I also was disappointed in like a lot of other people.

And so Carrie's, the base of her criticism was really about that, about the unevenness of she felt like his critique between what he said about Serena Williams, what he said about Michelle Obama, Jasmine Crockett.

People are sensing a thing.

And I definitely understand what that's like.

Hell, we just had a little conversation about Shador Sanders and how I realized I got to be careful how I talk about him because of how possessive and protective that a lot of people in our community feel about him.

And so when you're Stephen A or me or anybody that's in the sports media space, it's like the majority of athletes we talk about are going to be Black.

We're going to say more positive things about Black athletes than we do about them.

then we do negative, but it's the negative ones that tend to sting a little more.

And so with that said, I mean, I thought what Carrie said was, um, a fair critique and she brought me into it by talking about how Stephen A has come for us and really what, and I don't want to speak for her, uh, even though that's one of my closest friends, but I think what she was talking about was some of the things more she experienced behind the scenes on first take.

And, um,

where she felt like there was a lot of times that Stephen A was not as supportive as he said and as her friend and being there at ESPN when she was on the show that's how our friendship blossomed and seeing what she went through on a daily basis being between Skip and Stephen A not just on TV but behind the scenes like literally having to navigate both of their very big personalities it was tough and

She was very much, there was a lot of professional experiences that she had that were not great.

And so I think she was more or less speaking to that.

Now, Stephen A and I have gotten into it a little bit back and forth on social media.

He's had some opinions of Colin Kaepernick that I thought were,

thoughtless and a little inaccurate.

And I made that publicly known.