Jen Atkin

I mean, at the time you were I don't know how you did it, but like you were meeting thousands of people and having one on one conversations and making every person feel seen and heard.

And I was exhausted just watching you do it.

And it was a different time.

But like when I when glam people would like not be like professional, professional.

It wasn't even a breakup.

That moment, like my business was starting to like take off and I was like, oh my God, I need to, I can't do it all.

I'm a shell of myself.

Pre-kids, by the way.

And I remember being like feeling so guilty.

I felt so much guilt for like leaving this profession full time that had like brought me so many blessings.

And I was like, how am I going to do this?

And the crazy thing is, Chloe, like it was the perfect time for me to step in and like really nurture the brand to get it to where and I had.

at the time, 30 people who relied on me to not screw up and get canceled.

And like, they're working really hard every day on this brand.

And I was like, I've got to do this.

And I just felt in my heart, it was just the perfect timing.

And like, you and I both have now collectively changed so many people's lives.

And you've seen these girls go from assistants to now like amazing hairstylist in there, have amazing careers, and they'll have amazing things happening in their life.

You offered for us to come and stay at your house.

That experience goes in just the file of hard things that people go through that, you know, my dad dying, you know how horrible that is.