Jen Psaki

Now, the priorities of survivors is, of course, a lot of what you have been doing, which is pressing to have these government officials, Pam Bondi and others, testify under oath before Congress and answer questions for why they've withheld the files and also for the files to be released.

What do you think that was about?

As also, as you well know, but just to remind everybody watching, a lot of the survivors don't want to name names because they're afraid of defamation.

They're afraid of being lawsuits.

They're afraid of being doxxed.

They're afraid of threats.

That's a big part of it.

What did you make of—I don't know that this is even the most important part of this, but it did strike some of our very smart producers—

There was a lot of inconsistencies, I just walked through this, between Melania's remarks and the public record.

I mean, she clearly had at least some kind of relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, and her name was mentioned in at least one time in an FBI interview.

What do you think that was about?

Certainly raised more questions than it answered.

Congressman Garcia, thank you, as always, for joining me.

OK, let's just take there's so much going on.

I just want to take a big step back here, because for weeks now, people have been making this macabre joke that Trump started this war to distract from the Epstein files.

I don't think he actually did that, but that's been out there.

Now, today, though, it feels like it's not entirely out of the realm of possible that Trump's wife is talking about the Epstein files to distract from the war.

Who knows?

But perhaps we've come kind of full circle.

And frankly, there are a lot of reasons Trump probably doesn't want to be talking about the war right now.