Jennifer Bray

It often feels...

Sorry.

It's supposed to be Friday good vibes.

Yeah, I agree with Christine.

I do think it's one of those situations where even if you did progress and even if you didn't have loads of planning objections and various different issues, you're still talking about something that would be...

10 to 15 to 20 years down the line.

So it's no immediate solution by any yardstick.

And the other thing is, we've seen often, and it is often the case in a way that isn't often fully appreciated, particularly by those of us who live in a bubble in Leinster House, and I include myself in that, that the public are often ahead of politicians when it comes to what's happening.

So I think a lot of people would look at what's happening in the Strait of Hormuz, realise that, you know, the world's economy is so easily held to ransom by two warring men, and they themselves need to make a shift in their own lives.

You know, and that's when they consider their own homes, their own way of living, their own modes of transport.

But I still think there is an affordability issue in terms of retrofitting.

I still think a lot of people actually genuinely can't afford it, even with grants and even with the loans.

Heaven forbid this should happen.

Not much, really.

I think that's just exactly the way it operates between Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael.

And I think Christina's spot on the money there.

It's kind of raising the flag and going, oh, look, people are really annoyed about this.

It's kind of a bold move, really.

And actually, there's a Fine Gael meeting of backbenchers coming up next week where they're going to all submit their budget demands and they all want everything.

Everyone wants everything in the budget.