Jennifer Bray

So it'll be interesting to see how Simon Harris handles his first budget as Minister for Finance when his own party are stacking up the demands.

Exactly, yeah.

And I suppose the other issue we haven't really heard much fleshed out detail on is this voluntary returns procedure.

And I was told it would involve a generous package, but we don't know what that is yet.

Jennifer?

I think you're such a brave man putting out a tweet like that.

And also, you know yourself, even if you have like a nuanced set of lengthy tweets, the one thing people are going to remember is the part-time comment.

I have a lot of friends who are teachers and...

With the greatest of respect to you now, I just think that I just couldn't, I really disagree with the statement, not because I think it's a popular thing to say, but just because of the experiences of friends of mine who are teachers.

And I think it is true that obviously it's much handier during the summer, but their experience during the school year is...

is from what I'm being told, there's a huge level of burnout.

And also like when you're a teacher nowadays, it seems you're not only just expected to be a teacher, you're also expected to be tanned, other different kinds of things.

And almost this kind of presumption you'd also be a former babysitter or, you know, a counsellor.

And there's all these extra things that are

constantly being added on and I just don't know if that's fully taken into account and now we have kind of situations as well where you know there's a huge and rightful focus on special educational needs but there are a lot of teachers who are taking on the administrative burden of that particularly after school hours so certainly the feedback I've received from friends who are teachers is that they're completely burnt out.

They have all these additional duties.

And I think one of the things someone said to me recently kind of made me sad was the joy of it sometimes can disappear.

And I thought that was I thought I did think that was kind of sad to hear.

I do.

Yeah, I agree with the sentiment behind that, because obviously, you know, like you said, things have moved on.