Jennifer Forde

So, you know, they weren't... They were all educated, wealthy Cubans who then built big businesses in Miami, got huge power over time.

I mean, Marco Rubio came out of that community.

So...

They have consistently put pressure on the states to keep that kind of antagonistic approach to Cuba.

They don't want peace.

They don't want a deal.

They just want Castro out or the regime out and to take their country back.

So to kind of see any opportunity that has come up over the past decades that they've had to be able to paint Cuba as the bad guy they've taken.

So seeing Havana syndrome through that lens was really fascinating because suddenly, you know, Marco Rubio happens to be at a particular point in his career where he can actually make hay of this new story that's coming out of Cuba.

Cuba.

And it was sort of interesting to see how quickly all of what Assam was saying with Obama came tumbling down.

So Obama was the first president to have been able to take it that far, you know, to go over, open arms, say this, let's just bury the hatchet, let's new, you know,

a fresh start.

Adam goes over and within months of Obama having been there in the march, he starts experiencing this weird, this weird kind of sensation.

And they're kind of going in with this history behind them.

He's been briefed, you know, don't bring anything you're not willing to leave behind.

He's a complete novice.

He comes, you know, a few years ago, he's giving kind of, you know, what traffic,

It's a traffic cop.

Yeah.