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Jennifer Forde

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

Cut to...

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

The house, the curtains are drawn all the time.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

I think they had to go around for something.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

The whole front room is full of computer equipment.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

They had to have a safe room in the house, boarded up the window.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

I mean, there's no way these people were just straightforward embassy workers doing passport checks at the airport.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

So, I mean, it was a kind of funny sort of switcheroo of suddenly reading the world differently.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

And they, I mean, they do fill your head with this idea that it's happening all the time, you know.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

But I think that's what was quite interesting is looking at the history of antagonism and certainly whether or not the CIA would have been necessarily in line politically with that.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

or whether they would have found it quite hard to let go of that kind of age-old, kind of really entrenched view of Cuba as the enemy.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

I mean, I think going back to the revolution in 1959, when, you know, before that...

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

Cuba was like, it was like a kind of Miami.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

It was like a playground, kind of Vegas, loads of, I mean, it was built by mob money, casinos, hotels.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

Frank Sinatra went over and did shows.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

So it was, a lot of people felt like it was just a kind of annex of the States.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

So Castro...

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

seizing power, you know, seized money and property, and lots of the Cubans who were anti-Castro fled to Miami, where they put down roots but really imagined it was just going to be a temporary exile, that at some point they would go back to Cuba.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

But that's kind of really... It was interesting to kind of look at the history and see how much that has fed into American politics.

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

And a lot of those Cubans who became...

Crime World
Episode 1360: Havana Syndrome: the mysterious disease targeting the CIA (Part 1)

who stayed in America, in this kind of limbo, rose up to... I mean, they were all quite wealthy in Cuba.