Jennifer Forde

For sure.

And so we sort of told it, the series is kind of the story and it's kind of two parallel tracks.

You're with Adam, patient zero.

and his story of what happened to him.

I mean, he tells a very convincing story, and he is very easily able to kind of tie all the threads of it together in one narrative.

But there is another narrative that sort of sits alongside it, which could also explain what's going on.

Paranoia stuff.

Absolutely.

There's the paranoia of the, you know, because there have been some incredible situations that American spies are in in Cuba.

I mean, we sort of think of it as this holiday destination of salsa and, you know, cocktails and, you know, big kind of shows.

But there's...

Whatever you believe on Havana syndrome, and whether there is this sort of sonic weapon or energy ray, the Cuban intelligence do do terrible things to American spies and vice versa, but sort of taping scorpions to the inside of their clothes.

They can just take it as a given that they're being recorded all the time, everywhere.

I mean, that's incredible because that's happening all over the world.

What is it?

Isn't there a statistic?

It's like 40% or something of staff at U.S.

embassies around the world are actually CIA agents.

Yeah, but I think it happens because it's funny, while we were reporting on this story, I know somebody here in Dublin who rented their house out and they rented it out to two people who were working at the American embassy, two Americans.

And the people who owned the house were told they're working at the airport, they're stationed at the American embassy, they're going to be here for a couple of years.