Jennifer Williams

Shall we have another poem and we'll talk some more?

But also revelation too is, you know, to each individual as important as it is.

I'm getting your...

Performance even here in this room.

There is there's theater going on.

There's comedy going on.

There's poetry going on.

There's some sort of meta linguistics going on there's

and social commentary you know that all these things are sort of happening once and you're moving your body and you're using your voice and I've heard you talk about the art of performance poetry as being something that needs to encapsulate all these are all tools in your toolbox in a way is that how you

would describe it, or how do you feel about that?

But it also means you can grapple with quite big ideas and...

people can absorb them almost without even knowing can't they because they're engaged they're enjoying themselves they're probably laughing and at the same time you might be talking about existentialism or post-structuralism yeah yeah and it's kind of it it's all in there but it's it's very different than if someone was giving a lecture or reading very seriously from a book like this

Yeah, no, I think it's exciting.

And you have directed plays and written plays as well, like proper plays.

I guess that's the other nice thing about performance poetry is that it's very much you working with yourself.

So I think something like theatre or film, it's always a collaborative process on some level, whereas you can really...

work on that yourself, even if you are, you know, I suppose it is a collaboration with the audience ultimately.

I do think that is great, again, for any poet or writer is to have a, you know, whether it's a notebook or a file on your computer where you just, you store great ideas, great lines, bits you cut out of other poems.

Don't throw that stuff away because it can always be something you come back to and incorporate into new work.

I mean, do you ever feel that you will publish someday or that that will be something that eventually you'll kind of go, oh, well, at least I want a record of this to exist after I'm gone?