Jenny Kleeman

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443 appearances 8 recordings 5 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 15 Jul

Jenny Kleeman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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And I think maybe 20, 30 years ago, we thought, oh, we'll find a gene for this, a gene for that.
And we'll be able to, you know, work out what the gene for curly hair is or, you know, and we'd just be able to tweak this and tweak that and change it.
And we're learning now that there is a big interplay between different kinds of genes.
And there is epigenetics where you have a gene, but it's not expressed in the same way.
Things are slightly more complicated.
But ultimately, if we understand which genes are responsible for which traits, down the line, anything might be possible.
It's limited only by our understanding of how the genetic code that we have in our cells ends up being expressed in our bodies.
is it do you think it's as an inevitable as we allow it to be she said to use the word inevitable 12 times during our our conversation in her office
I feel like there is a tide that is turning in the US, having seen the tone and the mood of this debate with this ethicist, having walked around New York and seen the advertising for pre-implantation genetic testing with a slogan for this company is, have your best baby.
This idea that...
Not just a healthy, your best baby.
I've looked at a lot of technologies where the argument for it is we're helping children.
Do you want little children to suffer?
And there are very few people who will say yes.
We're happy for little children to suffer in order to maintain this arbitrary ethical boundary.
You do need to be flexible when you're looking at these things.
But the thing about Cathy is her association with He Sheng Kui does change.
tarnish this somewhat.
Because Hersha and Quay has tweeted at length about how inevitable it will be to do genetic engineering for intelligence, for enhancement, as opposed to just medicine.
And if she is doing this, if her objective is really just to help the sickest, most vulnerable individuals on this planet, why did she have this close association with this man?
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