Jeremy Boreing

I'm just saying that this is, I don't want to prevent McDonald's from being sold.

I'm just saying McDonald's is probably not good for you.

Or as good for you as other food, at least.

I'm going to get sued by fucking McDonald's.

Anyway, you get my point.

But the political side of it is interesting because I think whatever we may say about the direction that these people want to take the West in,

i think many of the critiques of the status quo as we've discussed before actually quite legitimate and james orr who we've had on the show who's now a big influence within reform but he's very good friends with jd vance as i'm sure you know he's one of the smartest people i've ever met one of the best people i've ever met too when he was on the show he talked about the fact that in his view or at least the view he was putting forward woke is the inevitable consequence of liberalism and so if you hate woke as i think we all do

His argument will be, well, you have to look at where it came from.

And therefore, this calling for a post-liberal worldview and post-liberal order is a natural reaction, I think, to that.

So why are they wrong?

Well, they're not wrong in diagnosing that we have a problem.

I think that they're wrong in that they remove human agency.

All these sort of isms are looking for an original sin.

Communism says the original sin is class.

And libertarianism says the original sin is government coercion.

and you know this new right says the original sin is liberalism but of course the original sin is original sin original sin is pride and the fall in the garden and the thing that leads to all of the other problems that these people are trying to diagnose as the problem but

Where I find fault with that is that it removes any agency after the problem.

People will say, I supported the Iraq War in my early 20s.

Now people will say, well, obviously the Iraq War went very poorly.

And so people will say, well, was it a mistake to invade Iraq?