Jeremy Boreing

And their evidence that it was a mistake will be a bunch of things that happened

that they basically imply were inevitable once the decision to go to Iraq was made.

But it wasn't inevitable that we would send too few troops.

It wasn't inevitable that we would disband the Baptist army, and therefore there'd be nobody to hold the country.

It wasn't inevitable that Barack Obama would win the presidency.

two presidential elections later, running on a promise to pull all the troops out of Iraq no matter what, and then did so, which gave rise to ISIS and required us to send troops back in and retake cities that we had already taken.

None of those things were inevitable.

Those were other decisions that also got made.

To actually get to the heart of was it a mistake to go to Iraq, you almost have to ask that question after working your way backward through all the other mistakes.

And I would say the same of liberalism.

we live in a world of problems many of those problems you can trace back to you know the enlightenment and and the beginning of the sort of liberal movement in the west but at each one of those points along the way humans were humans fallen from the actual original sin were making any number of decisions

that all compiled to bring us to this moment that we're in and it was not necessary i just can't say that there was only one thing that there was only one moment of true human agency that ever existed and it was the moment that your political uh philosophy got inspired by oh yeah man yeah just if caveman joe had never had you know two rocks when caveman tom only had one rock then we wouldn't have all these problems today i just i don't buy that kind of an argument

We have the excesses of the liberal order today that we're rightly trying to figure out how to deal with.

I don't think that one has to go all the way back and say liberalism itself has failed.

Liberalism just means human freedom.

Human freedom has not failed.

Human freedom is consistent with the gospel.

It's the freedom that Christ has made you free.

The idea of man's relationship to God being governed by law, as it turns out, was never God's actual design to be fulfilled in man.

And so he brought about human freedom in Christ.