Jeremy Boreing

People, particularly on our side, weren't fast to adopt

And they were as consumers, of course, but not as content creators and marketers.

And people on the other side hadn't figured out yet that we would become very good at it.

So the sort of cancel culture and all of the tools that later were developed to try to limit the reach of conservatives in those spaces hadn't happened yet.

So the world was sort of our oyster.

It was wide open in front of us, and we took it.

I think one of my criticisms of conservatives, broadly speaking, is that we're typically so late to adopt new technologies and new opportunities when they present it themselves.

And that's interesting because we purport to really believe in free markets.

We purport to believe in

uh those in the mechanism of profit motive of incentive of finding efficiencies in the market and taking them but then we're also sort of constitutionally afraid of new technologies afraid of new uh of change and so we sometimes uh allow the conservative part of our conservative dna to out uh to sort of outvote the part of us that would be sort of economically motivated and for that reason we wind up not being players in some of the big areas i think we're seeing it probably right now already in

but it was certainly true in social media at the very beginning.

And I think that's one of the things that set Ben and I apart is that we were either had the foresight to realize that there was an opportunity here or had the foolishness not to realize that there were dragons.

And so we just charged right off the map and went into that area.

Well, but what's happened since that time when you were early pioneers is I don't think there's any shortage of right-of-center, center-right voices now in new media.

Oh, no, we dominated.

And in fact, there's so many now that there is a civil war going on, I think it's fair to say, within it.

And I imagine you have some insights on that, given that some of the big players are people that you've either worked with directly at The Daily Wire or just know through other ways.

Well, obviously, the movement is small.

And if you're in it for very long at all, you know everyone, as you guys, I'm certain, know everyone.

And yeah, of course, there's a huge civil war going on on the right right now.