Jeremy McBride
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard 6 Aug
Jeremy McBride’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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It's the movement, right? It's the movement?
It was already in there. But that's his programming, right? Which is crazy. Which is so much of what we found so interesting about the justification for this love that a lot of the subjects we've covered had for these chimpanzees was that they love me. They do these things with me. I've trained them to believe that they have feelings for me and I have feelings for them. We have this understanding.
And I feel what we've realized is this kind of imbalance of this mutuality of caregiving that I think exists with a lot of our people. our subjects that we cover, but also some of the chimpanzees. It's very incredibly selfish around the symmetry of needs.
That's a lot of the sentiment we see from people is a reaction to that. We are basically doing that ourselves.
You're not looking at your son. You can make a choice. Yeah, sure.
Which, you know... It's hard not to be compassionate with a lot of these people, to be honest. Right. It's really hard. They're humans. They're humans.
I understand an audience reaction, though. And you can have those kind of conflicting views on it. But being part of making it as... you know, we're partially complicit to it too as well. I mean, in a way of sharing that story in a way.
Yeah.
Tell stories.
Well, the life choice is really remarkable. They're also basically in cages, the humans taking care of the chimpanzee. Right, right, right. You really think about it, and the same goes for Sandy, Sandy Harold. You know, what was so great about revisiting that story in Connecticut, you know, we basically... We were set to come out with this show in March this year.
And we were basically wrapped in November and we were going through finishing. And we suddenly got access to the entire Travis story. We work with this guy who wrote this incredible article, a New York Magazine article named Dan Lee. It's one of the best written articles about Travis. It's called Travis the Menace. He has no attribution of sources. You don't know who is talking.
So it's the kind of foundational piece for the Travis story. We tracked him down. He says, I have everyone that was part of that story and they have archive. Do you want to do it? And so we basically said, you know, is this going to make our story better? Meaning that we're going to have to extend for at least four or five months to do this right and postpone our entire delivery schedule. Yeah.
And once we got into it, it was so worth it because we got this total intimate view of what it was like to be in Sandy's world. We had this archive. The video that you see has never been seen before. This portrait of a family, this kind of very complicated, complex family life. That's been inhabited by Travis, which was a descendant of Connie Casey's place in Missouri.
If you think about that, where our starting point was for this whole project was was always around. How do we understand where captive primates came from in America? Connie Casey was this place, this kind of, you know, breeding ground for all of these animals that were kind of cycled through Hollywood. And what I found very interesting is this kind of this lineage that led to Travis.
Travis was sold to Sandy. It's so incestuous. It's so incestuous that they're all connected. And you'll see a little bit of episode four.
Travis the Menace. And it's a remarkable story. This is Sandy who bought Travis from Connie. Connie, you know, it was Susie.
Yeah.
It's more of a grimace. It's more of a happy smile, I guess, if you want to call it that. Right, right, right. So it was fascinating to us to get access to this story. We go into it and... He's drinking soda from McDonald's. That's disturbing. Yeah, he got too big.
Yeah. Exactly. That's basically it. Just so crazy. But he was, you know, this classic story. It was this kind of gothic fairy tale in Stanford, Connecticut, which was so unusual because it's a suburb of Manhattan. You know, everyone thought this was in the South or wherever. It was happening in Stanford, Connecticut. And Sandy had this kind of void in her life.
She buys Travis and raises her part of the family. And you see the story, the same arc as every other Chimp story in a family setting. Yeah. They get too mature and they have to, you know, the thing that I thought you'd appreciate in terms of our kind of this idea that we show in the story really well, I think, is this this chimp is happy and connected to the community because he's free.
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