Jeremy Miner

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Next Level Pros · #135: "You can't master selling by reading books" Mastering Tonality · 24 Jan 2025 podcast

I think, you know, we're, we're at a level where it's like in revenue, you know, and I still compare my, I always compare myself to like Vivint. So I always still feel like a small ant, you know, like, Oh, 160 employees, like just so tiny compared to the space that we came from, you know what I'm saying? So but for our industry, that's big.

The biggest thing that we're working on is as we're scaling, you know, we're bringing in department heads. And sometimes, you know, you'll have some department heads that you fully trust. It's almost like every decision they make is just gold. It's money and it works. Then you have some other department heads where maybe they got into that position and they weren't as qualified.

qualified position and some of the decisions, you know, set you back a little bit. So it's finding that balance between, you know, still being able to run the business and scale and take a little bit of risk compared to being so corporate that, you just don't take any risk and it's more slow growth. So it's finding that balance.

I'm the, I'm the, I'm the founder of the majority shareholder. We have a CEO, right? A business partner. We have, We have CFO. Obviously, we have managing director, senior vice president, COO. We have the C-level executives. And then below them, in sum, we have a VP or director of those, like director of fulfillment. Above them would be the vice president of fulfillment. Same thing.

Basically, we have a CRO. Yeah.

I would still be the vision. I would still, yeah. I mean, I'm the face. I'm the visionary of the company. Yep.

More the integrator, yeah. Got it. More the integrator, the business guy that handles that kind of stuff. So when you have an idea, you know, they're going to go punch numbers with the CFO. Does it, you know, sounds like a great idea, but, you know, we punch the numbers like maybe it's not so profitable for that. So you have to have that.

So like, you know, when you first started, you're like, hey, I got all these great ideas. You're the visionary. Let's just go spend, spend, spend. But then you don't realize like, oh, it's not so profitable what I just did.

So when I started seventh level, I knew we would never be just sales training. On the front end, we'll always be sales training because that's what we're known at. That's where we've gotten so much results. On the back end, though, we have the assets now. So in...

the third quarter of 2025 we are now going to have a division that's a recruiting uh staffing agency awesome uh on the the company side because we we probably you know we have a big facebook group sales revolution about 160 000 people going every day and we probably have i i'm not exaggerating probably close to 100 employers a day

that try to post in there like, hey, looking for 10 reps for medical device, looking for, could be solar, whatever. And so they come to us like literally offering to pay us for like certified reps in our training programs for their industries. And we just don't have an infrastructure to even offer that yet. We have an email list of over a million salespeople.

It's not like we had to start doing COVID. Right. And staffing and recruiting, that's a huge industry we already train in. So we already understand that space, like the background. We train tons of companies in that. So it's just kind of a natural fit to have that back-end model, kind of like a Grant Cardone has sales training, but then real estate. My buddy, Pace Morby,

you know, selling, coaching, how to do real estate. But then on the back end, every, every client brings him deals and they split them 50, 50, you know, so it's that back end revenue. So we have, we're just, uh, you know, we've created the assets for that the last five years and now we're bringing the right people to run that.

You know, it's interesting. Um, I've only had a few people ever asked me that. So, uh, so I went to UVU, Utah University, and my major is behavioral science, human psychology, but I minored, and world religions. And so in every world religion, you know, I'm obviously like you guys, every world religion. So I'm talking about, I'm not talking about religion now.

I'm talking about like ancient Christianity. So maybe from, you know, 30 AD to maybe 350 AD. I'm talking about Islam at the beginning. I'm talking about, you know, even Buddhism. I'm talking Hinduism. I'm talking about even religions in Mesopotamia. They had this one core belief that pretty much it was a universal belief that there were different levels of heaven. Okay.

Not like one heaven and hell, like a lot of religions believe now. And at the highest level, the seventh level, like look it up. It's crazy. God dwelt in the seventh level. And to attain that level, you had to be perfected like God. You had to overcome the world, you know, do those types of things.

And so that's where I came up with the concept, seventh level of communication, perfecting your communication skills.

Yeah, I think there's every religion has a lot of truth in it for sure. mixed in with some manmade stuff, including our own faith, you know, a little bit of manmade stuff here and there too. So I'm, I'm all about talking about, you know, I believe in some crazy things too, that might be outside the norm, but I think that's good.

And whether they're right or not, I guess we'll find out at the end of the day, you know, we'll all find out.

This is a hard one. For me, because we, I mean, we're in every vertical at this point in the, in the subcategories, like, you know, Tommy's vertical, like home improvement, home services, you got, you know, garages, doors, windows, carpet, countertops, everything. And that's a huge industry where we see a ton of our clients like crush it. Right.

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