Jeremy Wacksman

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I think MLSs are going to have to roll with it.

I mean, we're not in the business of trying to figure out how to create the rules and the fines for licensed agents.

We're not the associations of MLSs.

They are grappling with this concept right now, and we for sure will have a point of view on it.

I mean, we want to create the most fair and transparent and accurate version of a listing as best we can.

We started the conversation talking too much to the seller.

We started with the buyer.

And a lot of our innovations are around, look, more transparency is good.

Yes, you want to try and like hide the bad stuff.

They're going to find it when they come see the house anyway.

So you're just, now you're just wasting the seller's time with people walking through the house who aren't going to buy the house.

So virtual touring is,

is actually a good example of trying to giving buyers more empowerment actually helps the seller, even if it sort of is an indirect thing for the seller.

I think our broad philosophy is any innovation today is going to become commoditized in table stakes.

So we want to lead with innovation and create the right incentives for the marketplace to use the innovation.

Because back to you said, like the biggest challenge we're trying to get showcase more used is it's really hard to do

People have to change their workflow.

Not all photographers are changed on it.

There is this, I don't necessarily want to show all the things that Showcase would show in the house.