Jerome Bettis

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.

It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.

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To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.

So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

Thank you for finishing that sentence.

Yes.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really?

Yeah.

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Keir Gaines.

And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

I'm talking Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.

Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing...

We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.