Jerry Bell

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5,265 appearances 8 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 15 Aug

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Defensive Security Podcast - Malware, Hacking, Cyber Security & Infosec · Defensive Security Podcast Episode 357 · 15 Aug 2026 podcast

And I I would characterize it along two axes. voice-verified

One is voice-verified

Do they have access to meaningful things? voice-verified

Like payroll or voice-verified

Or HR records or or what have you, things that that would be consequential if stolen or encrypted. voice-verified

And then the other is, do they have influence on the company's willingness and ability to pay a ransom? voice-verified

And I and I and part of me wonders also, by the way, if there's like voice-verified

It's not covered in here, but there's also an aspect of this like who who would voice-verified

Who would be most likely to urge the company to pay it to to hide for their own mistakes or shortcomings in their job? voice-verified

I don't know if that makes sense. voice-verified

Yeah, I I think the uh the one of the the takeaways is that you know most of most of our training and security programs don't really contemplate voice-verified

The who, right? voice-verified

So we don't we don't voice-verified

spend a lot of time talking about who is more likely to be voice-verified

A victim because this is kind of a new development. voice-verified

And so it's it's worthwhile taking a look at this trend and figuring out how you might tweak your security awareness training and perhaps even your security controls. voice-verified

to account for this. voice-verified

You know, one of the one of the big takeaways, and I don't think we have any hope in in heck of voice-verified

doing it anything about it is that they're building the the adversaries here are building maps of who is who in companies voice-verified

based on open source data and I think open source data means LinkedIn mostly. voice-verified

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