Jess Bravin
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68 appearances
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2 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard May 2025
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Great to be here.
By the way, speaking of March Madness, I do have to point out that there actually is a basketball court in the Supreme Court building.
Yes, there is, over the Supreme Court room, and they call that the highest court in the land.
Yes, there is. Yes, there is.
She was not really known for her shots, but she did do some workouts there. And Justice Sandra Day O'Connor used to have a yoga class up there. But my guess is that they built it just because they wanted to be able to say highest court in the land. I think that that may be part of the reason.
Get a free throw and sort of— That's right. You can overrule.
Sure. Obviously, we know this administration has a very, very harsh view of illegal immigration and immigration rights in general. The ACLU got wind of the plan to invoke the Alien Enemies Act as a way to essentially short-circuit immigration procedures to use an emergency kind of wartime power to remove enemy aliens online. without going through immigration courts and the usual process.
So they then filed an emergency motion in the federal district court in Washington, D.C., asking for an order to stop the government from doing this. And the judge said, all right, well, slow down. I'm going to issue an order to pause this for 14 days so I can consider these legal arguments.
Yes, he is. That's right. He's an Obama appointee. He actually was a George W. Bush appointee to the local municipal court in Washington prior to that. But yes, Obama put him on the federal district court in 2011.
There is some opacity about exactly what happened next. The administration went forward with its removal of these Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador. And they say that they did not disobey the judge, although the judge verbally said, don't take off the plane, turn the plane around if it's in the air.
The administration says they didn't disobey the judge, that his order was not final until it was reduced to writing. And the written version didn't say anything about turning around a plane. And so they complied with his order.
Well, it's very significant if they did, in fact, ignore a court order. Now, they're going to say—I mean, they are saying that there was not a valid court order in effect when they did what they did. But they also say that he—that this judge doesn't have the authority to do it. So they're sort of saying both things. One, he issued an illegal order—
So therefore, we wouldn't have to follow it anyway. But also, we didn't disobey his illegal order. I mean, that's essentially what they're saying. The judge has asked the government to clarify exactly what it did when, and the government is resisting saying that's national security information that they don't have to disclose to the judge.
The judge says he was, you know, he was on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. He was, you know, he has a security clearance. He's frustrated. And so we don't know where that's going to end up.
Well, he's trying to say that this is going to DEFCON 1 over the kind of legal dispute that is really quite routine. You know, judges issue preliminary orders in cases all the time. Those often do not reflect the final disposition of a case. Often the very same judge, when he gets into further deliberation and reviews all the arguments, will reach a different decision.
So temporary orders at the outset of lawsuits are quite common. And the entire legal system is premised on the idea that there will be appeals. Everyone is entitled to an automatic appeal of a district court to a circuit court, and then the Supreme Court exists above that. So the idea that the judge issues an order that you disagree with, even if you think it is, you know, incredibly mistaken—
Impeachment is not the remedy, and we know that because there have only been 15 judges impeached since 1789, eight of which were ultimately convicted by the Senate and removed from office. And they were people who, you know, had also been convicted of crimes or other kinds of true misconduct, not simply crimes. making a decision that the president thinks is egregiously wrong.
So that is what the chief justice is saying, that, you know, there is a process for resolving these things. And immediately calling for the impeachment of a judge because you lost an early round in court strikes him as inappropriate.
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