Jesse Carey

And he was trying to blow the whistle.

At one point, Richard Doty and some of these Air Force intelligence guys ended up giving him like a laptop that had all this what what they said was like legit research that it was it was really wild stuff like.

some of the research suggested that religious figures you know from from all the major religions were actually like alien plants and and this is all made up stuff yeah right just a gas light but he would go and disseminate this within like the ufo community and this is pre-internet so so now it's spread yeah and and he's actively trying to spread it to like warn people yeah

and so you can trace a lot of you know the ufo lore of today and especially sort of like the weird like ufo religious stuff like intersections to this you know some of those ideas were planted on a guy with the intention to deceive him

and he ended up losing his marbles right yeah he had a psychiatric break and barricaded himself in a home with a shotgun convinced that aliens were after him and his family he you know so he was institutionalized he did recover um you know he didn't die in the but he was institutionalized like dude is that why elon always says we're the aliens probably yeah have you seen kenneth copeland though

That dude is an alien.

Especially if he's coming off that private.

Yeah.

That's easy.

With an acoustic guitar, that's easy.

That was really good.

Turns out it wasn't a psyop.

It's in my jeans.

I promise that was the government.

I can likely arrange that.

I don't know if I... Yeah, I remember that from previous guests.

Yeah.

I have a feeling you're looking for a straight answer that is in no way a setup.

I'm going to say psyops are no good.

I know.