Jesse Carey

And then you want to tribalize people.

so you want people to and this goes beyond partisanship yeah this this goes into making people very worried about their own neighbors even you know beyond politics like anyone who kind of sees the world differently isn't just someone who i might not you know theoretically get along with it's a threat to my safety

And so if you... And then they also actually talk about how can you inspire... It gets kind of dark, like violence and social unrest and, you know, assassins and things like that.

And they... So this plan was in the early 90s, and it was kind of a long-tail thing.

And...

So they were they have kind of been vocally looking for methods to apply these unrestricted warfare methods into American culture to weaken the United States from within.

And so if you fast forward like 30 years and especially you look at the advent of the Internet.

And then you look at the most prominent social media platform.

It is TikTok, which is owned by a company called ByteDance.

And ByteDance is based in China.

And there is no private institutions in China.

You know, the CCP ultimately can do whatever they want, not just with the data, but algorithm manipulation.

And so... And we dive into this a little bit, but...

with tick tock in particular and there's all this legislation right now and who knows what's going to happen there's a lot of like start and stops with it but there are some particularly insidious things that are baked into the tick tock algorithm that western audiences will get that behind the great firewall like in china they're out their tick tock algorithm is completely different

And it has a hard, that's like a legal thing.

Yeah.

Golly.

Where, and there's even things like how the app works at different times a day that's like depriving kids of sleep.

And it's like harming, it's, you know, there's been measurable harm.

There's legislation that is in Congress right now