Jesse Carey

He was, but he was... He was passionate.

But he was also, like, using it to... I don't know if he was, like, bribing Russia.

Let's just say he made a lot of money from a catering company.

Like, more than you should from catering.

Yeah, exactly.

And so he uses that money, and he's always kind of thinking about, like, the next thing.

And he starts the Internet Research Agency, which...

And basically, like, I think it was initially like 200 people.

It was like minimum wage jobs.

But he it was it was kind of one of the OG like troll farms and companies could go in and hire hire them to get like, let's say there was like a company that was a competitor.

And they wanted to, you know, cause that company stock to go down or something like that.

They could hire these guys to go basically kind of stir stuff up online and create a public perception thing.

And so companies would pay them to do like these massive misinformation or like kind of negative campaigns against different companies kind of under the radar.

No, technically not illegal, right?

But everything, a lot of stuff in the kind of the Purgosian world is on the border of criminality.

Sure.

Um, but when it did get illegal was, uh, other governments started saying, Hey, we will pay you to, to stir up some social unrest.

And so this happened in the Tigray region of Ethiopia.

Like Francis Algenstein was able to trace a lot of crazy activity to some of these Russian and foreign control farms where, I mean, people died, uh,

Yeah, exactly.