Jesse Carey

So like, let's say there's like a, uh, like a mine that has like valuable rare earth mineral minerals or something in Ethiopia, or there's someone who for political reasons would benefit from social unrest there.

They would go up, they, they would create essentially like rumors online against these two, like whether it's like ethnic groups or social groups.

And in that case, you know, Facebook is currently being sued.

I think the lawsuit is still tied up and who knows what will ever become of it.

But Francis Haugen seems the one who uncovered it.

There was a professor in Ethiopia who there was all these Internet rumors going that he was helping to fund this rebel group.

And anyway, he came home from it.

He got fired from his job.

He shows up to his driveway night.

He gets fired.

Guys on motorcycles come and shoot him right in the driveway.

But yeah, the goal was to, that was the outcome of the goal.

Start a cycle of violence, create political unrest.

And in the vacuum of authority, powerful institutions can go in.

They saw this in Myanmar too.

I mean, that was bloody and terrible, wasn't it?

Yeah.

yeah hundreds of thousands were displaced um and but it was you know i mean it wasn't a dissimilar method when you look at like the rwanda genocide or something but it was a different technology like yeah like that was traditional radio right where they're kind of turning neighbor against neighbor and starting the sphere they were weaponizing it and doing it through the internet research agency

And so other countries, I mean, they were at one point, it was getting super sophisticated where they were hiring kids in, I think it was like Pakistan and it would pay them to, to create, they would scrape social media sites of like real people's photos and set up like whole fake personas of, of people that just look like, you know, wholesome American families or whatever, but they have outrageous views about something or just kicking the hornet's nest.

So, um,