Jesse Carey

Hey, man, maybe they have... Kind of reverting back to that PSYOP.

Exactly, exactly.

And I think a lot of stuff in this space, you kind of have to at least entertain that suggestion.

Oh, it's definitely malicious.

Well, and I think the reason... And this is one thing, not that I struggle with, but just kind of thinking through it like...

i do so like with the unrestricted warfare thing like their ultimate goal right if you're a chinese colonel is self-preservation right i have to take down an adversary and if i'm just thinking about this pragmatically right and i know they would beat us if we got to a gunfight right or if our navies went at it or whatever

well what yeah it's a thought experiment how could i defend my own country and you come up with this plan and all of a sudden it's an evil plan but your ultimate ambition is self-preservation i also think in the in the uh national security space i think some of the technology and we you know we can talk about this uh these direct energy weapons and stuff some of these technologies are so powerful right that if they fell into the wrong hands or were turned against each other

It's almost like a lesser of two evils type of situation that some of these intelligence officials are.

It's like we can either take every measure we can to protect this secret, including weaponizing.

And I'm not justifying it, but you could see the thought process.

Yeah.

If you said like, hey, I have a weapon that is in our possession that does crazy things that seems like sci-fi.

It is ours, right?

And we can use it against people.

But if it fell into the wrong hands or even people knew it existed, it could threaten humanity, right?

What measures would you go to to hide?

Yeah.

And so you can see where they go through.

Well, let's just...

let's just gaslight people into thinking there's aliens and, and I'm not saying, I'm not saying there aren't right.