Jesse Carey

Yeah.

You know, system.

And so...

But what he, and a lot of the people in that documentary hesitate to speculate, you know, because if you speculate and wrong, you can be discredited.

It's just like, here's what we know for certain.

Yeah.

But you kind of get the sense that he thinks that technology could have made its way over around 1947, 1952.

yeah there was a big one it was the it was an incursion in 1952 where and we talked about this in in psyop the the series um i think it's episode five but there was a deal in 1952 where over the white house and all these military installations and you can look up the press conference on this we play clips from it in the show at the time it was the most watched like government broadcast of all time this is 1952

It was two weekends in a row.

These lights are showing up over the White House and military institutions.

And so I encourage people, like I said, people can go watch the press conference.

It's wild.

It's like these.

And to everyone talks in like the 1950s, like leave it to beaver, like, man, we're here to say that the White House is going on.

But they're in like their Air Force intelligence uniforms.

And this was like a big deal at the time, you know?

Um, and that's that when we kind of in the show, we look at parallels between that and like the New Jersey drone incursion from, you know, I guess last fall or whatever.

Um, and there's, there's a lot of similarities.

Um, but after that, after those lights started showing up and the military came on and says, look,

we don't know what they are, but don't nobody freak out.