Jesse Michels
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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And I believe the head of their CIA, former head of their CIA, Elaine Juliet, was extremely interested in UFOs and publicly to this day is like this big UFO proponent.
Yeah.
Right.
They have a long history.
So Gemini 11, that was Pete Conrad was the astronaut.
Yeah.
And Gordon.
Yeah.
And did they come back and say, we saw a UFO?
Did they say anything?
I don't think so.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, cause that's the other, look,
I've looked into all the moon landing stuff and I just actually had Joe Rogan on the podcast, which was a big honor.
He kind of was the first person to be in our spaceship set, which we just built, which is really cool.
And I just couldn't think of anybody better for that.
And we talked about a lot of the moon landing weirdness, you know, in the presentation of the moon landing.
And I think neither of us are suggesting that definitively, like, the U.S.
didn't go to the moon.