Jesse Michels

that Tao signified conversion to Christianity, but it wasn't—it was like a forced conversion.

It was like he was forced to walk the straight and narrow.

And if you think about Jesus, you know, in the garden, like, you know, his fate was his fate, but he didn't want to accept his fate.

You know, he was really afraid and reluctant in many ways.

And so—

I think, you know, there is a way in which all of this stuff, if you do like widen your aperture, you expose yourself to stuff that can burn you and can set you down the wrong path.

And if you can walk that straight and narrow, I think you can ascend into like a really cool state of consciousness.

And, you know, what that is, I don't know, it's like impossible to like talk about a lot of this stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, I have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's kind of also why I'm here today talking to you, because I would probably still be investing in startups, and this would be this...

Compartmentalized.

A hundred percent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it became like a Gnostic.

And I think if you speak to a lot of UFO researchers, a lot of them try to stay really impartial and be like,

oh yeah, I did see that one thing.

And then you like, you know, they have a drink with them or something and they're like, okay, like it's, I just want to know what I saw, you know?