Jesse Michels

Like,

You know, he knows a lot of people in and around government.

Like, everybody's probably trying to, like, you know, sycophantically cozy up to the guy, like, and giving him information.

Like, his worldview is way better than, I think, people who are so skeptical about all this stuff and like to kind of trash him, like, you know, than they realize, in my opinion.

Yeah.

Um, so yeah, I found that to be very interesting, but Elon, so he's so like dogmatically opposed to this stuff.

Generally he'll be joke and he'll say, I'm an alien or something, or he'll be like, I would know.

Cause I have all the clearances, uh, which I, you know, consistently hear from people on the inside, like is, is absolutely ridiculous.

Like you, you know, it doesn't have, you know, blanket clearances to everything.

Like the, that world is so stove piped and compartmentalized.

Yeah.

That if you had some legacy pockets or whatever in these companies that are kind of incumbent and trying to compete against SpaceX, I don't think he would be privy to everything just because he runs a chemical combustion rocket company.

But what I found interesting is he went on, I think, Tucker Carlson and

And he walked back his dogmatic skepticism and he goes, what these pilots are seeing is probably just, you know, American classified programs.

So that's really interesting because unless you were saying that it's all like radar spoofing and visual spoofing technology, like something's mastered the ability to like do both.

Then what you're admitting is there are advanced vehicles that are flying in ways that transcend the chemical combustion you're using at SpaceX.

And to me, that is fascinating.

I would not feel bad having spent all my time studying UFOs if that's the way the wave function collapses.

I happen to think it's more complicated than that, but cool.

If that's the answer, that's fascinating.