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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
really Fermi kind of theoretically cracked the atom, but Oppenheimer did it in sort of a practical way, created the bomb.
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And for whatever reason, UFOs seem to show up around consistently nuclear installations in the late 40s.
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And that started with Los Alamos, which of course was the original site of the Manhattan Project.
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It was distributed all over the country, but obviously Los Alamos was where
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Most of the testing was occurring.
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Most of the personnel were.
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And so you have these crashes.
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You have a crash that a guy named Jacques VallΓ©e, who's this French kind of godfather of UFO research, actually investigated in 1945 in Trinity in San Antonio, which is in New Mexico.
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You have 1947, which was the Roswell crash, which...
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you know you have i think tons of evidence around where you have you know a crash occur uh uh in the town of roswell a few beings seem to to come out and this is now being talked about at the highest levels of intelligence there's a new documentary out called the age of disclosure where uh you know the the former director of national intelligence which governs all of our you know intelligence agencies
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is in a movie that talks about Roswell, which is pretty crazy.
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And that was in July of 1947.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And in September of 1947, you get the creation of, you have the National Security Act under Truman.
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You have the creation of the CIA and basically our kind of modern intelligence apparatus after the OSS.
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And since then, you've had basically UFOs showing up across nuclear sites all over the country.
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So, you know, Hanford site in Washington, Savannah River site in South Carolina, Malmstrom nuclear base in Montana.
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You know, I could literally talk about individual cases in all of these places, Effie Warren in Nebraska.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
So like all over the U.S., UFOs are showing up around nukes.
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In 1947, the head of Air Material Command, who basically is responsible for all aircraft development for the Air Force, this guy named Nathan Twining, writes this famous memo to this brigadier.
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Basically, he says UFOs are not visionary or fictitious.