Jesse Michels

our world is kind of non-dualist or whatever.

I think I can say that safely on this show.

And other people would wholeheartedly disagree with that and maybe kind of conventional dogmatic physics circles or whatever.

But if you could go even farther than that and like the latency or bandwidth with which you affected reality with your mental state was actually far greater in the case of the bandwidth and far lower in the case of the latency, I think that would be really cool.

Um, I do think a lot of people are into this topic because they want some sort of forbidden knowledge.

And there is this sort of left-hand path that you get into with, you know, anything that is sort of secret or a cult or whatever, which is the wrong motivation.

And you never get the thing by like having that sort of motivation.

So I think it's important to be cognizant of that.

But if there is, uh,

you know, are they there beings between man and God?

I think that's aspirational.

And, you know, is that the next evolution of mankind that is sort of atemporal, that has sort of, you know, access to a time agnostic realm where you're not subject to Zeno's arrow of time, where every time you get out of the stream, you're in a different place.

And we're kind of, you know, speaking of soup, we're stuck in this kind of epistemic soup of, you know, um,

of time, essentially.

You know, I think all of that's like really exciting.

I think it's humbling because it's like, okay, what is this reality we're in?

Maybe it's actually more limited in scope than we realize, you know, and that obviously dovetails with, you know, Don Hoffman and some of the other people you've had on where physics is more of an adaptive interface for us.

It is not, it's the map.

It is not the territory.

So you end up with all of these like interesting kind of second order questions that come from it that I think are extremely healthy to ask as a human being.