Jesse Michels

But yeah,

I don't know, a couple of really famous cases are you have Travis Walton in the mid-70s.

He was in a national park in Arizona, and he was actually with a bunch of friends, and they were loggers.

And they had finished their work at the end of the day, and they see this weird bright light in the object.

They're all in the car, and he's still out.

In the sky, bright light in the sky.

They see a bright light in the sky, but then they see it on the forest floor and they see it near Travis.

And Travis then touches the craft and gets blown back.

And, you know, it almost seems to like zap or hurt him where there seems to be this kind of electromagnetic, you know, emission or field around this craft.

And the five guys are freaked out.

They go back into town.

Uh, they, uh, basically are like, we don't know what to tell you, but this is what happened to this guy.

One of the guys had actually been in a fight with Travis that day.

And so, you know, he didn't have any incentive to like, say that, like, you know, this guy's being truthful about like this UFO abduction experience or whatever.

Yeah.

They're all, like, people are, like, skeptical also of this guy and a lot of the people because they're like, are you sure, like, you didn't get into a fight with him?

You didn't kill him?

You know, they think, like, they were, like, murderers at one point.

They all take lie detector tests and are, like, grilled by the local sheriff and stuff.

And people are like, okay, maybe something happened.