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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
Like, this is actually weird.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
Like, these guys are, like, you know, passing the tests and they seem to be really consistent in their stories.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
Travis is then found.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
I want to say...
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
five days later but he has like a full-grown beard so it's like as if like more missing time had occurred and he had been basically on this craft with an operating table with both grays and actually nordics so you have like you know two different kind of uh alien archetypes involved in his abduction and uh yeah he comes back down and he basically says that they did like surgery on him
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And to this day, it's one of theβit's, you know, Fire in the Sky is this famous sort of, you know, documentary that's been done about him.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
My friend Chris Ramsey, who's a greatβhe actually had the biggest magic channel on YouTube before going into UFO stuff.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
It's a good crossover there.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
It's a great crossover because he actually shows how a lot of the magic's done, and he debunks a lot of magic.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
So a lot of magicians kind of hate on him because they're like, don't show the special sauce or whatever.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And he's extremely good when it comes to debunking stagecraft.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And in fact, he took me to a magic conference with some of his top magician friends, like the guy that has worked with David Blaine for 20 years.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
These guys are...
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
like to me, they're like literal magicians.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And he would consistently be like, no, this is, you know, he wouldn't show me the method.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
Cause that's like not how you're not supposed to do that in magic, but he'd basically be like, there's a method here.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
There's a method there.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
There's a, you know, and like he would do that a little too much on his channel.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And so he'd get in trouble on that, but he was always kind of a UFO freak.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And so that got him into, um, uh, starting area 52, which is this channel.