Jesse Michels

Right.

But, um,

The human energy field, we've been covering so much dark stuff.

And I think the positive element of this is that we all have these kind of bioelectric, electromagnetic fields.

And I think later MKUltra stuff, unfortunately, deals with chip implantations and stuff that is kind of freaky and weird.

No way.

Being able to remote control a dolphin to drop a bomb?

What's that?

Yeah.

You know that movie?

Because according to the American Psychiatric Association... It's being sarcastic for anybody taking that.

Don't you talk about attempts to program somebody's sexuality?

That is, this is crazy.

Jesus man.

So we're just more, I mean, John Lilly, who we were talking about the inspiration for the day of the dolphin.

He kind of invented the isolation tank, and he would take a lot of ketamine and would get into these dissociative states.

And he even, I think at one point, summoned this thing he called the SSI, the solid state entity, and would communicate with this sort of alien intelligence.

And he wrote a book called, I think, was it Human Programming and Metaprogramming?

I think so.

So just on the note of what you're saying, it just feels like humans are far more programmable.