Jesse Michels

It's kind of the perfect smokescreen for Intel because I also think there are real alien abductions.

So, the Betty and Barney Hill thing...

think was a genuine abduction but also you know the the other weird fact around that is charles douglas jackson who worked at he was like head of you know part of the psychological strategy board and ran psychological warfare for the united states in the 50s and i believe was that time magazine was responsible for the zapruder film so the missing frames in the jfk assassination video like this guy was clearly sort of like the missing frames in the jail cell

For Epstein.

Exactly.

The whole minute missing and the raw data.

Crazy.

So C.D.

Jackson is meeting with Betty and Barney Hill a few weeks after they get abducted.

No.

It's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

That case smells so bad.

It's so obvious.

And, you know, I don't know.

It's funny to me to see a lot of like the podcast circuit is like all like up in arms now.

And I'm like, we've known this for five years.

It's like, just look at the facts.

Like, it's so obvious.

Um, you know, not that they shouldn't be up in arms, but they should have been up in arms many years ago.