Jesse Michels

Can I, can I give you my crazy Epstein MKUltra theory?

Okay.

So Manson, if you look at who he modeled his life off of, it was Stranger in a Strange Land, Robert Heinlein, this like 1968 or nine bestseller sci-fi book.

uh i believe he um calls his son don michael valentine who was like the lead character in the book and he even calls his parole officer a guy named roger smith i believe he calls him jubal jubal harshaw was this protector character in this book manson i sent you an email i don't know if you saw it oh i don't you know that i think i did the tv show fbi i

Well, there you go.

A mashup of two names in Stranger of a Strange Land.

It's not random.

I'm like, do you think that LSD was given to Manson or he was dosed up, made to be extremely impressionable?

We know that on record at the time,

There's a program called Operation Midnight Climax, where... Actually, it's a subproject within Amicaltra.

So it existed and they were dosing up hippies off the street in Haight-Ashbury, putting them behind a, you know, a one-way mirror and then viewing them, you know, with prostitutes and stuff, how they'd behave.

That was the head of the equivalent of the DEA at the time, the Drug Enforcement Agency.

I know, but then he became the head of the DEA.

It's not a low level.

So creepy.

Okay, so here's my question.

Okay.

If they're doing stuff like that, what I think is, if you have a guy who's illiterate who's modeling his life off the book, he can't read the book, but the book becomes the template for his life, Stranger in a Strange Land, Charles Manson,

He was probably read the book while dosed up on LSD or ketamine or something.

Could be.