Jesse Michels

And I believe Robert F. Kennedy, because I think he was giving a speech or something, falls back and grabs this guy behind him and falls down on this guy.

That guy was a Lockheed Skunkworks bodyguard named Eugene Thane Caesar.

And I believe if you asked Robert F. Kennedy, who's obviously now, you know, Health and Human Services Secretary.

Right.

He will say, I think Eugene Thayne Caesar, that Lockheed security guard, killed my father.

He would say that.

He would say that.

I think he believes that.

I'm not doubting him, but why do you think that's what he believes?

He must have said something.

No, I'm saying I believe that he has publicly said this.

He's publicly said it.

So pretty wild.

And I think he thinks it was all done at the behest of this guy, Bob Mayhew, who was the general counsel for Howard Hughes or like the right-hand man for Howard Hughes.

And it's all just so spooky.

You have...

All these guys who are tied in with the 5412 Commission at the time, this sort of interagency coordination group that I think originally starts out for, you know, if the president wants to do some spooky covert action, it's plausible deniability for him.

It's interagency coordination.

And it turns into this sort of runaway thing.

you know, deep state faction that just, you know, has its own aims.