Jesse Michels

And I think you get into this territory where the null hypothesis becomes crazier than just admitting that there's some sort of phenomena at play.

So, like, what are we saying?

There's some sort of cabal that's, like, controlling the people in Japan that's also controlling the American military industrial complex.

You're all of a sudden getting into parapsychological, psychical levels of control that, like—

itself would be extremely worthy of investigation and, like, maybe I'm open to, but, like, that's a weird claim unto itself, right?

So I think that just following the data takes you to extremely epistemically weird places no matter what.

And then I would definitely not snap it to grid and say aliens from other planets.

Yeah.

In fact, they're good reasons to believe they're not aliens from other planets, and they're actually more connected to mankind than we think.

We're going to get into that.

I think it could be extremely aspirational because if you think about a lot of these stories, the aliens seem to be sort of telepathic.

have this sort of ability to manipulate reality that you could think of as being used nefariously, or you could think of as like really cool.

Like you could do a lot with the world if you had that sort of parapsychological mind meld with, you know, we say that,

our world is kind of non-dualist or whatever.

I think I can say that safely on this show.

And other people would wholeheartedly disagree with that and maybe kind of conventional dogmatic physics circles or whatever.

But if you could go even farther than that and like the latency or bandwidth with which you affected reality with your mental state was actually far greater in the case of the bandwidth and far lower in the case of the latency, I think that would be really cool.

Um, I do think a lot of people are into this topic because they want some sort of forbidden knowledge.

And there is this sort of left-hand path that you get into with, you know, anything that is sort of secret or a cult or whatever, which is the wrong motivation.

And you never get the thing by like having that sort of motivation.