Jesse Michels

You know, crazy, interesting, mad scientists in American history.

And there's a great

a book called Strange Angel about him that I recommend everybody read.

But he sees this like Nordic looking being in the desert.

And it's almost, and I think he says that she's from the planet Venus.

And so that's like one of the first kind of archetypal like Nordic experiences.

But you have going back to the theosophical and anthropological

philosophical kind of, you know, root races and civilizations, you have this idea of the Hyperboreans or whatever, these sort of like conscientious towards the earth beings that were, you know, part of some destroyed cycle.

And they're the first root race is the Hyperboreans.

So...

it's hard to really trace like the kind of origin point of a lot of these things.

I think they're archetypal and sort of a Jungian sense and exist across civilizations and across societies in the human psyche.

You know, even like reptilians, you could really go back to like, you know, ancient Hinduism and, you know, battles in the sky or whatever.

And then there are definitely modern instantiations.

So it's really hard to kind of pinpoint, but

Yeah.

Where they were seated and are they being reinforced by culture?

Clearly they're being reinforced by culture, but is there some objective reality to them too?

Probably, you know?

Yeah.