Jesse Michels

And if you think about it,

you would need some sort of space-time match.

If you do take the, you know, speed of light as, like, the ultimate, like, speed limit for the universe, you would need some sort of basically space-time engineering going on.

So you would need time travel in order to get, like, interstellar space travel.

So I think it is sort of this false dichotomy.

But, yeah, you do seem to have these ascended versions of humans with, like, total 360 control over reality, right?

But there's almost like in Star Trek, you have pre-warp drive civilizations and you have warp drive civilizations.

They're like technologically advanced, but they can't interfere.

There's something called the prime directive where you can't interfere with pre-warp drive civilizations.

So it's like they only can do minimal interference with people.

And they often, people experience taking chemical rinses after they like leave the craft or like as they're leaving the craft so that they don't contaminate

you know, society with the like alien pathogens or whatever.

It's very strange.

I don't know what is going on, but it's, it's, it's kind of like what you would think of.

Like, like if you, again, if it's like you take this zoological or anthropological model and,

You know, or you watch a show like Chimp Nation or whatever, where, you know, which like Rogan loves to cite, where you're like, you're peering in and you're kind of trying to blend in and you're not really trying to interfere.

But you also don't really care that much if you get seen.

And then maybe you want to like tag the animals with a certain thing and like study a thing.

that seems like what's happening with us.

And they don't seem to care about human hierarchies and status.