Jessi

those feminine wounds and um you know it's one of those things and i think that it created a feminine wound and i think that's where that that comes from you know i grew up with um all brothers and you know we didn't have um we didn't really have girls in the house growing up much you know um we i don't know i don't know if you your family situation growing up but with all boys we were always shit talking one another and even even my mom growing up was like

very much like very like like we joke around with her and like like she was very much like a boy mom if that makes sense and like my family is all very aggressive like the way we communicate right and it's not something that i think that that combined with the feminine wound is what kind of caused things to go where they went

My relationship was never like what it was with Jesse.

That was also like, I was 18 years old.

That was 13 years ago.

Never name-called.

But to answer the question, yes, I think that aggression was there.

I think that what caused it for me, and again, this is not to create excuses, but just to have it be out there, is it's just not feeling like a priority.

It's just not feeling like that love was shown.

It felt like it was a cry for attention, a cry for help, because it's like you're over here.

It only got worse once the show came about.

It was just not feeling like being enough.

A lot of times, yeah, we were in therapy and there were things that she wanted me to change and I would make a lot of those changes.

Like what?

It would be like, you know, not being so aggressive about things or not being controlling, you know?

And control for me is like, when I don't feel like I'm in control, it feels like I'm powerless.

Right.

And those are all things that I've, I've again learned in therapy, but I would make a lot of these changes and then Jesse would be like frozen.

Like stop.

Not because she's like out to get me or, or anything like that.