Jessi

It's just sometimes in those moments, I think that it was hard for her to change learned habits.

Like Jesse's a workaholic.

I think at that time it was, at that time for sure.

I think I hit a point when I kind of just like threw my hands up in the air and I'm like, why do I want to make all these efforts if you're not going to meet me with a spec at the time?

Because I gave, I gave, I'll be honest, like I gave it a lot of time.

It was very much, you know, there, there was, there's definitely something underlying that, that she needed to work on.

And she's been working on those, those things.

Like what?

Oh, um, one of the things I'm sure, I hope she talked to you guys about and I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but you know, she has a bad people pleasing problem.

And I think you guys see that a lot throughout the show, you know, where, you know, you see like what Demi did to her and she continued to let her back in after horrible things.

And I think that people pleasing can, can definitely cause like there's the, she'll, she'll people please someone for so long before, you know, they'll burn her.

And I think that's kind of what, what you guys have seen, like meaning like some, you know, other relationships or other things going on might be more important than what really matters.

And that's your family, you know?

I think that I have done an excellent job and I'm very proud of the progress that I've made.

And I would say that Jesse is also proud of the progress that I've made.

Yeah, she mentioned as much.

Maybe that was maybe I think it's still the right thought, but I think it was just the embarrassment.

I think that like what happened, how it happened, who it happened with is at the time I was just I was mortified.

I think that I thought about it in a way that was like, well, what does that mean?

How does that make me look as a man?