Jessica Tarlov

You find out what everyone wants.

Is it religion?

Is it oil?

money, you know, gazalago, whatever it is, and you can always get a deal done.

And that has fundamentally changed how I think about the business of politics.

And it's not like I didn't know that it went on, but to this degree, that people will turn a blind eye to levels of corruption at this level.

in order to get an outcome that they want, whether that's more money in their own pocket or that they want a particular outcome, right, like in the Middle East.

And that has been very jarring and one of, I think, his main impacts.

Like, he's the biggest mirror that American society has ever had, right?

That he—you hold it up and you see—

stuff within the American populace that you had hoped wasn't there.

Like in 2016, my dad said, this is what we deserve.

We will be fine, but it's what we deserve.

This is the Kardashianification of America.

And now you're just seeing this level of excuses for dirty dealing and self-profiting and really like cruelty, especially on the immigration level.

And it's reflective of a rot in American society that is much deeper than I thought.

You are blowing my mind this holiday season.

The White House ballroom could be the Scott Galloway toilet there.

Do you think that you've said too many bad things about them that they wouldn't even take your money?

I guess actually his cabinet is full of people who said that Donald Trump will be the downfall of the republic.