Jessica Tarlov

And they're saying, I've got to get out there, and I've got to—

make my presence felt, make my voice heard, just show some line of solidarity with people who hold similar values to me.

And having a government where it's so clearly that we don't understand what's important about America or what America is founded on as this administration, I don't think I've experienced before.

I didn't enjoy the Bush administration, for sure.

I come

You know, I grew up in New York City.

Very vivid memories of George Bush post-9-11, right?

Throwing out the pitch, the whole thing.

Like...

Throughout it, I disagreed with going into Iraq, but I knew that George Bush loved America, right?

And that it was in defense of something that I could understand as well and had been taught in school was what America was about and learned at home from very liberal parents what America was about.

And we're not seeing that at all here.

I'm curious to get your take on this before we switch over to talking about

So, you know, ISIS popularity totally in the toilet.

Overall approval for immigration also gone down.

That was his best issue that he just completely squandered away seemingly for no reason.

What?

What do you make of kind of the conservative move to have a discussion?

You know, I think it's really maligning Renee Good's character and who she is.

So that's obviously part of it.