Jessica Tarlov

But, you know, when they say ICE needs to be able to do its job.

And I have seen the list of bad hombres that ICE has picked up and gotten out of this country, even in the Minneapolis area, like a guy who's sodomizing kids, you know, people who are raping Americans.

Like, I don't want those people here.

Nobody does.

Exactly.

And so how do you think that we can thread the needle better, or how is there some way to—

Build a relationship with I mean, Tom Holman is coming off as the most reasonable one in the bunch compared to Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem at this point.

And he seems to understand that, like, the worst first is probably the right way to go about this.

So, like, how do you think we can approach that and also take that message?

I don't know if you listen to Brian O'Hara, the police chief from Minneapolis on the Daily News.

But, you know, he was talking about how regular cops can't do their jobs because of what ICE is doing, because ICE actually has a very specific purview, right?

Like, they can't actually police traffic, which, like, what Renee Goode was doing, that was a police infraction, not an ICE infraction.

So, you know, like, how can we start talking the same language, I guess, about this?

Because I don't like seeing liberals being knee-jerk defensive, like...

ICE doesn't belong at all.

And, like, I think in this incarnation it probably doesn't.

But, like, we have to get those people out.

And when you look like you're on the side of letting a guy go who might have sodomized a few kids because they're doing all this other bad stuff, I feel like we lose the argument with more conservative-leaning folks.

Yeah.

Are Democrats asking you for that advice?