Jessica Tarlov

All roads lead to the Save America Act and this obsession with election security with no cases of fraud.

What do you think that means for your work and for our elections to hear Ron Johnson saying that?

Oh, okay.

I didn't even think about that.

I mean, I knew about the passport and the birth certificate, but not the birthright citizenship application to it.

I feel silly that I didn't even think about that.

Like, they were both evil track things, but I didn't make the connection as to what it would do for the Save America Act or whatever, their next iteration of this.

Was that part of Project 2025?

You're paid to make that connection.

I have kind of maybe an annoying question, but on voter ID, because it's very clear the Save America Act, that's not a voter ID bill.

I've been saying that on air.

And like, honestly, they get pretty quiet about it because I think they understand the difference, even though they continue to use the language interchangeably to be like Democrats are against voter ID.

And I say we're not against voter ID.

Tons of states have voter ID laws.

Jim Clyburn has been out there saying we're for voter ID.

That's not what this is.

and over 80% of Americans, no matter how you vote, believe in some voter ID to be able to cast your ballot.

What is the argument against a federal standard or even just 50 states having some requirement

for voter ID at the polls.

And I mean, my line in the standard, like if you can buy a gun, you should be able to use whatever you showed the person at a gun show or a private seller to be able to do that.