Jessica Tarlov

We're just trying to diminish things now, which, of course, on the sliding scale could be anything from like we nicked it.

to we blew it up a little, to they're already firing more missiles than they were last week, which is a huge deal and change in the state of play.

But when he talks about nuclear material, that's gone.

Regime change that lets...

The Iranian people live freely.

That's gone off the list.

And I don't know if you saw this.

The Wall Street Journal reported last night and then Trump confirmed it this morning on Truth Social that he's open to an arrangement where he the U.S.

leaves before the Strait of Hormuz is reopened.

So that essentially just leaves Iran in charge of the strait, and they can negotiate any deal that they want.

We know already they're making more money than they were before.

They're cutting their own deals.

Like, all the tankers that are going through aren't our tankers, right?

They're Pakistani tankers, Indian tankers, Chinese tankers.

They're supplying...

the world with oil, again, just at a higher price and filling up their coffers, plus the $14 billion that we gave them back when we eased sanctions on them in the middle of a war that we said was existential for us.

It's so unbelievably frustrating.

And, like, it continues, you know, the drumming from the right of, you're not a patriot if you're just...

calling out, using their language back at them.

It's like my favorite thing to do on The Five, where I say, you don't even have to trust me, right?