Jessica Tarlov

So now they're talking about taking it from healthcare.

And you're absolutely right to be framing it around, you know,

Is it this or is it that?

And that's what the right had actually been able to do super successfully, right?

Like that's how we got to the point where Donald Trump was believed to be the peace president.

And he ran a very successful campaign on making people feel like they were being ignored because we were giving money to Ukraine.

not even close to the amount of money that Ukraine needed.

And it was an excellent return on our dollar for it.

Because America First was all about, you got problems at home, right?

Like your energy costs are up, your apartment costs too much, or you can't get on the housing ladder, your groceries are, you know, too high.

And now it's like they've had a

complete lobotomy and forgotten every single thing that they not only used on the campaign trail, but used effectively and were able to win from.

It's nuts to me.

Like when I'm sitting there talking to my colleagues and I say, you guys threw this in my face for years.

Like why are you just repeating the same mistakes?

And I don't think that there's

a scenario in which the average American feels any safer from this.

I mean, the thing with Iraq and Afghanistan, and granted, it was predicated on a lot of false information, but there was a direct link between what was going on there and the types of people that were in power and American influence.

peace and security here, right?

Like, that's what 9-11 did.